This is the 6th in the series FearTalks originated by fearologist Dr. R. M. Fisher. Dr. Fisher is an Adjunct Professor at the Werklund School of Education at the University of Calgary, and has a Ph.D. in Education, a Masters degree in Adult Education, and a graduate diploma in Educational Psychology. Dr. Fisher also trained as a secondary school science teacher and taught elementary and junior high.

He invites Debbie to discuss fear and education, especially in the light of recent terrorism, mass murders and schooling communities reacting to it, including the recent marketing of bullet-proof kid's backpacks. They discuss how fear is the opportunity (door) to fearlessness on the way to love. A good video for school superintendents, policy makers, teachers, principals, parents etc. Fisher and Kasman talk about philosopher-theorist Ken Wilber in this video and Integral perspective. For more on this, see Debbie’s blog posts Spiral of Existence and How to Grow Up Between 20 and 60 Years Old and Dr. Fisher’s You Tube video Ken Wilber: Unique Philosopher for our Times.